Any of you play PHIL HELLMOUTHS "TOP TEN SYSTEM" ........

[Fishhead]

.......that he promotes for newbies on limit hold'em?

This can be found in his book PLAY POKER LIKE THE PROS.

He essentially has the newbie ONLY play what PHIL describes as the TOP TEN starting hands in holdem and NOTHING else.

-F-

 

[QuickLearner]

The biggest mistake new players make is to play too many marginal hands. If you stick to PH's top 10 you'll be solving that problem, alright. It might preserve your bankroll long enough for you to start learning the game. For an absolute newbie I don't think it's bad advice.

Good players will soon learn what you play, however, and you won't get paid off. You can play many more hands than PH recommends if you have proper position and can get away from the hand if you don't improve. Most of the money in limit hold'em is made or lost after the flop, not on starting hand selection.

 

[Anonymous1]

could you list the top ten please...

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

Is this the same one where he says to bet large with pocket 7's and if the flop comes KQ8 bet it big again???? ill pass.

 

[crazyivan]

Top 10 hands were pock pair 77s to AAs followed by AKs, AKo, AQs

 

[Anonymous1]

thanks van...i guess for a new player this is the obvious...though i would lean to 5's and 6's over off suit AK...AQ especially in smaller games...

 

[ProPokerPlayer]

Pocket 2's against AKos is only a 52-48 fav....it slowly goes up to where pocket 10's are 58-42 against the same hand

AKsuited is dead even against 22 and only goes to 56 -44 at pckt 10's......

once the blinds get large i toss low pockets like used kleenex....i see people win with them but for me anyway there just isnt the value i want when my tourney life is on the line....and its not like your going to get anyone off AK...somebodys usually going to call even if you go all-in..the risk aint worth the pay off in most cases..to me anyway, others im sure will disagree

 

[unconscious]

nice angle Pro, never seen it that way before.

unc

 

[JamesTrout]

Heads-up!

http://www.onlinepokercenter.com/articles/poker_strategy/phil_hellmuths_starting_hands.php

 

[unconscious]

Can't stand PH but good template for beginners.

 

[RobFunk]

Is this the same one where he says to bet large with pocket 7's and if the flop comes KQ8 bet it big again???? ill pass.

:lol:

 

[SportsCapperIsland]

Pocket 2's against AKos is only a 52-48 fav....it slowly goes up to where pocket 10's are 58-42 against the same hand

AKsuited is dead even against 22 and only goes to 56 -44 at pckt 10's......

once the blinds get large i toss low pockets like used kleenex....i see people win with them but for me anyway there just isnt the value i want when my tourney life is on the line....and its not like your going to get anyone off AK...somebodys usually going to call even if you go all-in..the risk aint worth the pay off in most cases..to me anyway, others im sure will disagree

To me, it all depends on the scenerio, if its heads up or a short field, I almost always play any pocket pair, if the field is larger, I will muck low pockets 99% of the time

 

[QuickLearner]

To me, it all depends on the scenerio, if its heads up or a short field, I almost always play any pocket pair, if the field is larger, I will muck low pockets 99% of the time

I'll play any pair if I'm in late position and there are 2-3 limpers in ahead of me. I want plenty of company when playing a speculative hand. I play connectors down to 6,5 the same way, suited or not.